Monday 19 May 2008

Florida Revival?

Thanks for this Peter. Those of us who have been around KF for any length of time will immediately identify with a reluctance to call this revival. I suspect it is not (at the moment anyway)! It does seem to be a 'time of refreshing' though, which we all need to understand will also attract the flesh, and of course be attractive to the flesh. Without the element of repentance and holiness what is offered is 'experience without cost'. Hopefully there will be leaders with discernment, who have learned from Toronto, and who will be willing to forsake their seeking after experience this time in order to channel any anointing/glory to the world, to those who don't know him but need to. So I'm not sure i'd go as far as Rob Hoskins below, but I share some of his concern.

Richard


Hi Peter

Just to say that 5 from Healing Rooms just went to Florida Revival and arrived home yesterday ........ I was one of them, Helen Anderson and some others ......... and it was AWESOME, AWESOME AWESOME.....and we are home on FIRE !!!

All we wanted to do was "go get some" and now we are home to pour it out here......WATCH THIS SPACE.

Healing Rooms are holding an impartation evening this Thursday 7.30 in Cathcart Baptist Church...if you are interested or know anyone who is!!

Allyson

Hi David,

Thank you for copying me into this email string. For my part, I am trying to keep an open mind in all of this – not wanting to ‘throw out the baby with the bath water’.

Since the good Lord has condescended to work with fallible human beings, there will always be an element of our humanity and anything God does through us.

Watching and praying……

Every blessing,

Peter

FYI

David L'Herroux
Executive Director

United Christian Broadcasters Ltd


From: Rob Hoskins
Sent
:
16 May 2008 17:13
To: David L'Herroux
Subject: Re:
FLORIDA REVIVAL?

I see no fruit of real revival- repentance, humility or an ingathering of the lost. Signs and wonders can be a result of revival, but not the reason for revival. The emphasis on dramatic demonstration, personal prophesies, personalities and angelic encounters as opposed to the study of the Word, repentance and individual and community transformation leaves me little doubt that this has more to do with emotional hysteria then true revival. This is distracting the church from its Great Commission and is a sign of the narcissistic nature of the American church.

Matthew
12:39 "He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign!"

Matthew 24:4 "Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ [anointed one]' and will deceive many."

Matthew 24:10 "At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people."

Matthew 24:23 "At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time. "

Colossians
2:18 "Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions."

2 Cor
11:13 "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve."

Hi Rob,

Hope that you are all doing well.......please see email from John Glass (General Superintendent of the Elim)..........if you could let us know your thoughts that would be great....!

Every Blessing,

David.

David L'Herroux
Executive Director

United Christian Broadcasters Ltd

Sent:
Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:44 AM

Subject:
FLORIDA REVIVAL?

Dear Friends

We are receiving a number of calls to the Office here from Pastors to ascertain what our position is on the meetings that Todd Bentley is having in
Florida.

My view is that our leaders are sufficiently mature to reach their own conclusions on matters of this nature without the issuing of a 'party line' from
Cheltenham.

However it would be remiss of me not to draw attention to the disquiet that is arising in the minds of many leaders around the world with regard to the documented comments that Todd is making about his interaction with personal angels and particularly one called Emma who 'floats a few feet off the ground and provides him with lots of money' and his assertion that he visited the Apostle Paul in a cabin in Heaven who told him that he had solicited the assistance of Abraham in the writing of the book of Hebrews.

Charisma magazine offers the following link on this

http://www.charismamag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2400

On a more positive note, a remarkable series of meetings continues much nearer to home at
Kensington Temple where William Lee, who had been booked for a short series of meetings has now cancelled his diary until the end of the year. Meetings attracting hundreds of people are being held every night of the week except Monday and 700 decisions for Christ have been recorded with some of the most remarkable healings and creative miracles that we have heard about are taking place.

Yours in Him

John Glass

3 comments:

muchgrace said...

I got your mail and checked out the string you sent together with everyone's comments so far ... to be honest I'm somewhat 'confused'!

What's all this about "...Todd has the OK from William Branham's angel to minister yet Branham's angel specifically told Branham that he was the 7th, and final, messenger. After him there would be no more revivals?"

Other than that, I watched a snippet of Todd on YouTube and ... dunno really!?!? Warren

Unknown said...

Hi Warren, thank you for your comment. I guess that you are watching, waiting and wondering like many of us.
I can see the appeal especially to a younger generation; church with tattoos and attitude. We all want to find out what the new wine-skin looks like - could it be this? Mmmmaybe .... at least in part but I can't help feeling that we haven't seen ALL of it yet.....

Anonymous said...

some seem to have a problem with the lack of repentance.
In Matthew CH11, John the Baptist, whose whole ministry was that of repentance, seemed to be doubting Jesus and sent his disciples to check out if Jesus was the real thing. Jesus reply was not, Yes look they are all repenting, but see the signs and wonders, the blind see, the lame walk, the death are raised. This was the focus of His ministry to the people, but in verse 20,it says 'then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent' The expectation is that those that are healed and touched by the kingdom of God, will be thankful, repent and believe. Not all will, but just as that was not Jesus responsability, neither is it the Evangelist's who is working in the gifts.
We are told to test all things... is Todd Bentleys ministry perfect, certainly not, but he is not Jesus, he is just an earthen vessel whom God appears to be working through,
Alan